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  • Nov. 7th, 2009 at 5:20 PM
womencrime
I’ve been thinking a lot about this hot button issue, particularly the complaints about gory serial killer books both written and read by women. With everything else going on, my chances of actually finding the time to really tear into this interesting and thorny topic are currently slim to none, so, while I’m gone, here’s a question for the virtual hivemind.

Do you think that seeing a female byline on a serial killer book gives female readers “permission” to be titillated by extreme violence against women in a way that would be uncomfortable for them if the same book were written by a man?

Discuss.

edited to add - I'm not talking about well written books here, I'm talking more about bestselling junkfood books. And I'm not talking about smart readers either, I'm talking about average, airport/beach readers.

and here's that Jessica Mann quote, context for the click-phobic.

"When a female corpse appeared on the jacket of a crime-writing colleague's new book, she pointed out to her publisher that the victim in the story was actually a man. Never mind that, came the reply, dead, brutalised women sell books, dead men don't. Nor do dead children or geriatrics. Which explains why an increasing proportion of the crime fiction I am sent to review features male perpetrators and almost invariably female victims — series of them. Each psychopath is more sadistic than the last and his victims' sufferings are described in detail that becomes ever more explicit, as young women are imprisoned, bound, gagged, strung up or tied down, raped, sliced, burned, blinded, beaten, eaten, starved, suffocated, stabbed, boiled or buried alive. "

Comments

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[info]deep_bluze wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2009 01:27 am (UTC)
Nope
Just like I hope people reading my books don't believe that all of the things I write about are my secret fantasy life...what the hell, you know? I - for one - as a fan of serial killer style fiction - am damn glad when I find something written by a woman because it's fresh - usually handled much differently - interesting.

A writer is a writer...and books stand on their content, not the gender of their creator...

DNW
[info]faustfatale wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2009 01:35 am (UTC)
Re: Nope
I agree good books stand on content regardless of gender, but that doesn't explain why serial killer books written by women are perceived to sell better to female readers.
[info]deep_bluze wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2009 01:42 am (UTC)
Re: Nope
Sorry for the anonymous post...


Maybe they trust a woman to write the book in a way that won't lessen the female characters? I try to be very honest in my portrayals of both sexes, but not all authors do this...many men seem to write victims as weak, or secretly looking for trouble - stupid cliches that limit the work.

So maybe women just trust women to handle the whole thing better, or to write it in a way that they can connect with more honestly?
(Anonymous) wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2009 03:24 am (UTC)
I wish they'd get their generalizations sorted out. How much of the population is now alleged to be lesbian? Lesbians = man haters. Man haters would buy books with male corpses on the cover. Lesbian Man Haters, and Dennis Cooper. That's not enough for a sub-genre with gender appropriate covers?
[info]cinriter wrote:
Nov. 8th, 2009 06:50 am (UTC)
This is pretty incomprehensible to me, especially coming from the horror field, where books about brutalized women are legion, but virtually no women are actually writing any of it.

[info]grahampowell.myopenid.com wrote:
Nov. 29th, 2009 01:40 am (UTC)
The proliferation of serial killer books has reduced the motives for murder to just the sexual thrill. People used to kill people for money, or hatred, or revenge, but now it's just all perversion. (Not that there's anything *wrong* with that.)

Give me the good old days, when you could poison your maiden aunt for the inheritance.
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